Gordy you never attend the OTT meetings at Kingston Lodge so why you having your
say in something that doesn't concern you..and your right see youy next
wednesday, no we wont because you never turn up..I suggest you stay out of
things thast you are not involved in..TK




--- In Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro@yahoogroups.com, Mike Farrell <firstsgtmike@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Another vote heard from.
>
> Danny, at P10,000 a pop. put me down for "over 22".
>
> Mike Farrell
>
>
> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:43:56 +0800
> From: texkano@...
> To: firstsgtmike@...; cwhite50021@...; gelynch52@...; varnerrk49@...;
richmachinski@...; demarvell2003@...
> Subject: Chinese Fire Drill
>
>
> Ya know, it don't bother me in the least to say "I told you so".
>
> I told you so.
>
> It weren't broke, yet some SUPER EGOS and PERSONALITIES had to have their say
so.
>
> With Mike running the OTT raffle and selecting (foot work) where to apply the
benefits - all was well in the world we live in and the CHILDREN were the
winners.
>
> SuperEgos step in, pitch a hissy fit, now it's all "Committee".
> and the pissants are impeding the CHILDREN'S wins.
>
> And some wonder why I no longer attend the OTT meetings at Kingston Lodge.
> Not me. I know why. To many peckerheads and not enough balls.
>
> "See me next Wednesday"??
> I think not.
> --
> gordy DOS 17Dec07
>
> F.U.B.A.R.
>
>
>
>
>
> a.
>
> Kingston Lodge and WEDNESDAYS
> Posted by: "Kingston Lodge" danny.lawson@... kingstonlodge
> Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:24 pm (PST)
>
>
> To All
>
> Over the past few months there has been numerous topics on the Raffles held at
Kingston Lodge on a Wednesday.
>
> I would like to make a few points on this:
>
> 1: Kingston Lodge is not involved with the running or decision making of
anything to do with the raffles, other than donating a weekly prize.
>
> 2: Kingston Lodge supports the organizer/s of the weekly raffles as well as
supporting the clientele of the establishment and remains neutral in debate.
>
> 3: Kingston Lodge respect the privacy of all concerned.
>
> Summary:
>
> Despite repeated requests from numerous people to keep these issues private
and offline it seems that this cannot happen.
>
> Mike B, makes a very good point Quote- "If I were a new member and I saw what
is going on now I would be very hesitant to go to the get together or donate any
money towards the charity in general".
>
> Whilst Kingston Lodge welcomes all and everyone to visit the establishment (It
is a business) if holding the weekly meeting there is going to become
detrimental to the business then we need to step in. (No I am not cancelling the
Wednesdays).
>
> With this in mind Kingston Lodge would ask that all those directly involved
please solve the issues all those who are not directly involved should allow
those who are to solve the issues and all those who want to be involved please
step up.
>
> Consequently with immediate effect Kingston Lodge requests from the group on
Wednesdays that the RAFFLES be suspended until such time the issues can be
resolved.
>
> Just to clarify, the RAFFLES are suspended not the day. The raffles are a
small part of the group and its intentions however the raffle results are
causing all the issues.
>
> Kingston Lodge thanks each of you for your continued support and we hope that
we may all get this behind us quickly and move on.
>
> See you next Wednesday.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Kingston Lodge Management
>
>
>
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> Messages in this topic (2)
> 5b.
>
> Mike B's/Danny's Posts RE: Expat Raffles @ Kingston Lodge and WEDNES
> Posted by: "Ron.Philippines" friendsnmore2@... friendsnmore2
> Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:55 pm (PST)
>
>
>
> Suggestion: Let's bring this ON LIST childishness to an end...
>
> Intended Purpose of the Expats in CDO Yahoo GroupThe Expats in CDO Yahoo Group
was/is intended to be an electronic information exchange for foreigners and
partners living in the area - thinking about living in the area - or folks
visiting our area. We talk
> via the Internet in lieu of trying to find each other all over town.Recently -
a lot of postings have been focused on - for want
> of a better label - spending small amounts of money collected
> during a volunteer weekly raffle that was/is intended for charity kids'
projects in the CDO area (donating books - desks for a local school, and so on).
> The History of the Weekly RaffleThe 'CDO Kids Projects' program has been going
on weekly
> - always on Wednesdays - for over a decade without issues.
> Although the location of the Expats Gathering has changed locations through
the years (now at Kingston Lodge) - the raffle has not.
> __________The weekly raffle activities (i.e. buying the raffle prizes -
collecting the money - and (mostly) finding the kids projects - has been
organized and 'managed' by one single foreigner - '1st Sgt Mike' - who has been
here in CDO for almost 15 years.
>
> As a tiny event of the weekly gathering - many of the attending foreigners
(about 20-25 of them) elected to kick in a few bucks each week during the
primary activity - Yap-Yap and a little minor SM fueled debauchery.
> __________
>
> Proposed Changes to the Raffle Operations
>
> Several months back a clique of Wednesday attendees started an effort to
convert the weekly raffle to a more bureaucratic-type 'organization'.
>
> Henceforth - there were to be stringent accounting records for the maybe
$20-$30 dollars that might be collected in a week - committees to determine
donation targets - and so on.
>
> And that's OK. It's the Wednesday Attendees folks business to decide how they
want to operate the Wednesday raffle... Attendees can chose to Opt-In or Opt
Out.
> __________
>
> Group ON LIST Behaviors
>
> Some years back - we had several incidents of so-called "Flaming" take place.
That's when one Member starts On List arguments with another - making derogatory
comments about another Member (of the "I'm smart - you're stupid" ilk, etc). It
seemed to be great fun for the two
> or three Members involved - seriously boring for the other 900 of us.
>
> That's when the "ZERO-TOLERANCE FLAMING" policy was instituted.
>
> This latest 'tempest in a teapot' topic - a weekly raffle involving some $20
bucks - is becoming close to an ON LIST FLAME situation between
> some 3 or 4 'interested parties'.
>
> There been OFF LIST discussions - several (proposed) posts on the topic have
been returned (not published) that were at best - rude - at worst offensive.
There's just no need for such ON LIST behaviors among our own group Members.
>
> Mike B suggested that any further 'discussions' on the topic be taken
> OFF LIST. That's a good suggestion.
>
> Danny from Kingston Lodge (the current venue of the Wednesday Meeting) is
suggesting (below) that the Wednesday raffle be suspended on Kingston property
until the "to be bureaucratic - or not to be a bureaucratic" issue is resolved.
That's another good idea.
>
> Let's bring this ON LIST childishness to an end...
>
> Ron
> On Fri, 3/11/11, Kingston Lodge <danny.lawson@...> wrote:To All
>
> Over the past few months there has been numerous topics on the Raffles held at
Kingston Lodge on a Wednesday.
>
> I would like to make a few points on this:
>
> 1: Kingston Lodge is not involved with the running or decision making of
anything to do with the raffles, other than donating a weekly prize.
>
> 2: Kingston Lodge supports the organizer/s of the weekly raffles as well as
supporting the clientele of the establishment and remains neutral in debate.
>
> 3: Kingston Lodge respect the privacy of all concerned.
>
> Summary:
>
> Despite repeated requests from numerous people to keep these issues private
and offline it seems that this cannot happen.
>
> Mike B, makes a very good point Quote- "If I were a new member and I saw what
is going on now I would be very hesitant to go to the get together or donate any
money towards the charity in general".
>
> Whilst Kingston Lodge welcomes all and everyone to visit the establishment (It
is a business) if holding the weekly meeting there is going to become
detrimental to the business then we need to step in. (No I am not cancelling the
Wednesdays).
>
> With this in mind Kingston Lodge would ask that all those directly involved
please solve the issues all those who are not directly involved should allow
those who are to solve the issues and all those who want to be involved please
step up.
>
> Consequently with immediate effect Kingston Lodge requests from the group on
Wednesdays that the RAFFLES be suspended until such time the issues can be
resolved.
>
> Just to clarify, the RAFFLES are suspended not the day. The raffles are a
small part of the group and its intentions however the raffle results are
causing all the issues.
>
> Kingston Lodge thanks each of you for your continued support and we hope that
we may all get this behind us quickly and move on.
>
> See you next Wednesday.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Kingston Lodge Management
>